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Reader Questions: Verb placement

Carisa e-mailed with a question:

I have a question about verb placement that I think is a matter of proper syntax vs. a more readable, colloquial style.  Here’s the sentence:

“This document will reveal how close was the decision to change the current policy.”

I sense that this is correct, but I can’t come up with the rule to explain why.  However, colloquially, I think people would expect this:

“This document will reveal how close the decision was to change the current policy.”

Then, there’s this, which I think is colloquially common but just plain wrong:

“This document will reveal how close the decision to change the current policy was.”

Do you know what the rules applying to such a sentence would be?

Before I give my answer, let’s hear from some of you. What do you think the answer to Carisa’s question is? 

I’m heading out of town for the weekend, so post your thoughts in the comments, and we’ll talk about it on Monday. 

Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 at 01:25PM by Registered CommenterRoy Jacobsen in | Comments2 Comments

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Reader Comments (2)

I certainly don't think the last one is wrong.

My instinct is that the decision to change the current policy should all go together, since the phrase to change the current policy modifies the decision. So that rules out the second option.

When I ignore to change the current policy, it seems obvious that "The document will reveal how close the decision was" sounds the most natural. So I'd go with number three. Number one sounds more like a question: "How close was the decision?" It's correct, but it seems a bit stuffy as a declarative sentence.

Normally with a sentence like this, I'd try to rewrite it: "The document will reveal the closeness of the decision to change the current policy"? Meh. Not much better, but maybe.

August 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKitty

I don't know whether I'd call it a rule, but generally you don't want too many words between the subject and the verb in a clause. According to that "rule," The first two choices are fine -- the verb "was" is right next to the subject "decision." Of those two, the second comes more naturally because we're used to seeing the verb follow the subject rather than precede it.

The third choice really isn't incorrect. Actually it is in keeping with another rule: keep your modifiers close to what they modify. The phrase "to change ..." modifies "decision," and the third choice puts the two as close together as possible. And though there's a gap between subject and verb, the sentence is understandable on first reading.

The first choice keeps both proximity rules, but at the cost of breaking the "rule" about the normal order of subject and verb in a clause. Maybe that's what Carisa senses is wrong with it.

August 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRay Ward

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